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Bloc '09 tunes

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I have the following in a .rar if anyone wants 'em, PM me.

2 Bad Mice - Bombscare (Original version)
2562 - Moog Dub
4hero - Morning Child
Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force - Planet Rock (Original Twelve-Inch Version)
Altern 8 - Infiltrate 202
Aphex Twin - Avril 14th
Appleblim - Girder
Arabian Prince - Strange Life
Bass Clef - Cannot Be Straightened
Beardyman - Simple As
Bizzy B - 16 Track Relick
Busy P - Chop Suey
Carl Craig - Televised Green Smoke
Ceephax Acid Crew - Acid On Sea
Clark - Ted
Daniel Bell - squirrel bait
Digital Mystikz - Molten
DJ Q-Bert - Cosmic Assassins
DMX Krew - Won't Forget
Dynamix II - Just Give The D.J. A Break (Remix)
Ebola - Painkillers
Ed Rush & Optical - Get Ill
Global Goon - Jerky Dharma
Green Velvet - Flash
Heartbreak - Regret
Hecker - Jxean-Z Character Generator
I-F - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass
Ital Tek - White Mark
James Ruskin - The Divide
Jamie Lidell - Multiply
Kode9 & The Space Ape - Glass
Lee 'Scratch' Perry - Soul Fire
Mad Professor - Fast Forward Into Dub
Martyn - Suburbia
Metro Area - Miura
Modeselektor - Godspeed
October - Invitation
Otto Von Schirach - Invincible Meat Boy
Plastician - Japan
Pole - Warum
Radioactive Man - Airlock
Redshape - Plonk (Original)
Richard Devine - Float 82
Robert Hood - The Color Of Skin
Rusko - Cockney Thug
Rustie - Jagz The Smack
Scientist - Blood On His Lips
Si Begg - Technology
Skream - Midnight Request Line
The Egyptian Lover - Egypt Egypt (12'' Original Mix)
The Future Sound Of London - Papua New Guinea
Tipper - Tug of War
Ulrich Schnauss - Knuddelmaus
Vex'D - Crusher Dub
Zion Train - Earthquake

...unless i can post it here?
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Post by DannyBee »

Aw cmon buddy! Use your brain that you were hopefully born with.

Offering a rar file full of mp3's from artists that are playing at Bloc on the official Bloc forum.

Does it take a rocket scientist to think that it would possibly be a stupid idea?


If you have some mixing talent maybe you could make a nice mix and offer that.

Otherwise surely keep the file sharing to the filesharing sites?
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Site owners are only liable if they're seen to be condoning or not doing anything about obvious file-sharing, and since i haven't posted a link and the above may not even exist, that's a moot point.
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Post by Phier »

Ok these are live radio recordings, which legally are acceptable insofar as they're widely distributed by the artists themselves and have yet to be challenged in court.

If they're taken down, again, PM me.


The Future Sound of London - Live @ Downtime Sessions 003 - 2008-06-16

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3YWM904M

Tracklist:

01 Fsol - We Have Explosive (2"tapes) [Sony Music]
02 The Advisory Circle - Hocusing For Beginners
03 The Mount Vernon Arts Club - Mv3
04 Nocturnal Emissions - Toyota
05 Belbury Poly - The Hidden Door
06 Ems:pianio - The Vessel (Vessels) [Future Song Publishing]
07 Fsol - Open Door (Archive 6) [Westbury Music Ltd]
08 Christian Marclay - Smoker
09 Zeebox - Out Pot (Zeebox 3) [Future Song Publishing]
10 Fsol - Hallucination-sunset Strip [Westbury Music Ltd]
11 David Whitaker - 1st Move
12 Ennio Morricone - Ninna Per Adulteri
13 Holger Czukay - Holger Czukay's Message To The Sales Force 1
14 Amorrphous Androgynous - Riders (Peppermint Tree And Seeds) [Future Song Publishing]
15 Fsol - Environments1 (Environments1) [Future Song Publishing]
16 Fsol - Echo Interview
17 Amorrphous Androgynous - Flickers (Amorphik Alternatives) [Future Song Publishing]
18 Fsol - Kaaawa (Archive 6) [Future Song Publishing]
19 This Is The Kit - Tangled Walker
20 Fsol - Fat Spat (Archive 6) [Future Song Publishing]
21 Were - Download
22 Osho / Ems:piano - Warm Drift (Vessels)
23 Zeebox - Stillness (Zeebox 3) [Future Song Publishing]
24 Eno - A Measured Room
25 Zeebox - Mecca (Zeebox 3) [Future Song Publishing]
26 Fsol - Environments 1 (Part2) (Environments1)


Robert Hood - Tunnel Club (Milano, Italy) - 2008-11-22
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TE4GYOY5


2008-12-06 - DJ Godfather @ BGB Booty Night, Maria am Ufer (Berlin)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZQX2I54F


Mary Anne Hobbs - 2008-04-23 - Rustie (Guest Mix Only)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L8MDHD80

Tracklist:

Rustie - 'Dog Mask' (Dubplate)
Rustie - 'Keesha Resmak' (Dubplate)
Hudson Mohawke - 'Still On It' (Wireblock)
Mike Slott - 'Gardening' (Dubplate)
Rustie - 'Early Learning' (Dubplate)
Olivier Daysoul - 'Space Ship' (Dubplate)
Alex Cortex - 'Reminisce' (Wireblock)
Music At Nite - 'City to City' (Wireblock)
Ghosts On Tape - 'Port Moresby' (Dubplate)
Dj Tamiel - -Body- (Dubplate)
Pivot - 'In The Blood' (Rustie Remix) (Dubplate)
Rich Boy - 'Chevy A Monsta' (Dubplate)
Rustie - 'Bad Science' (Wireblock) (Dubplate)
Starkey - 'Blow Ya Mind Remix' (Dubplate)
Joker - 'Solid State' (Dubplate)
Rustie - 'Dragonfly' (Dubplate)
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Post by MRO »

File sharing is illegal. To give its real name its copyright infringment.
It is a criminal offence to upload music without a license. It is an offence to also download that music.
You make think that is not right for whatever reason you may think that it is At the end of the day it is taking away the income from the producers that make the music, and in this day an age are struggling most of the time to keep going. So by giving their music away like that is actually contributing to their downfall. Would you like to know that if one of your favourite producers or labels stopped one day that you actually contributed to that ?

File sharig sites only get away with doing waht they do as they say it is meant to be sgaring 'files' eg documents, pictues, not the sites fault if people use it to transfer music. But that doesn't make it right, and the Governemt is dealing a lot with tthis at this very moment. In France now doing what you were offering with the tracks, and if you then followed through giving that music to anyone this way more than 3 times and your ISP account would be cancelled and not just with that ISP but any other national ISP. That same law is about to come to Ireland........more countries will follow.

If I came round to your house and drove off in your car would that be considered 'car sharing' ?

If you took BLOC artwork and copied their website and did a party you think they would accept that and think it was ok as it would be 'image sharing' ?

Value the music you love more and giving it away like that devalues it.

Have more respect for the producers you like. Their music has copyright, it is their intellectual property, that means their property like your car; intellectual as in creative. So their creative property i.e their music is as much protected under as if someone just took your car which is proteced to you as your property.

Check:
http://www.ukmusic.org/page/digital-britain-2901

The mixes are OK but please don't join in offering people music for free like that. Try and support your the music you love and not be soemone that will contribute to its downfall.
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Post by Phier »

Not that i'm entirely trying to justify it, but let's get a few things straight...

1) Copyright infirngement has yet to be tested in the courts to hold forum site owners liable for the infringements posted on their site, however there is a grey area if they're seen to be lax about it's rampant use.

2) No infringement was posted on this site, only words.

3) Most artists make their money from gigs, and gain nothing but exposure from PR or albums sales.

4) That same exposure can be gained from people listening to their music and then translating that into cash that goes to artists via gigs, rather than record companies via singles/albums.

5) The artists that suffer are the up and coming artists or the ones not suited to live performances, "bedroom DJs" as such. I acknowledge this, but also the fact that distribution methods are changing no longer tying those artists down to companies.

6) It is safe to assume that most people here are going to be paying their respects to the above artists by attending the festival.

7) It was the French, and only the French (due to Sarkozys presidentship) who vetod the EU ruling to abolish the 3-strikes rule.

(the EUs grounds being that an individuals rights to personal data/information protection superceded that of private companies piracy concerns)

But it was the Irish ISP Eircom that first bowed under pressure to actually implement it. Noone that i'm aware of has yet to have been given a strike yet.

8 ) If you came round to my house and took my car i would no longer have it. If you came round to my house and copied my mp3s i would still have them. Thus is the difference between stealing and copyright infringement. Copying and listening to the file is theft of a potential sale, i.e. only theft if you were going to buy that single/album anyway. This ofcourse begs the question why would you if you can just copy it, and that depends on the individual, but i think pointing out the difference is important.

As for copying a website have a read of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_off

...

btw i do value music, but as a communal resource, thus i wish others to value it too. I recognise people need to earn a living from it, but the above thread in no way denies them from that right.

You may be interested that last.fm hope to pay artists directly for each streamed track played on their site (funded by ads), and while i think sites like that homogenise what people tend to listen to, it's a damn site better than the current model.
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Post by MRO »

Not entirely true some producers make their entire income from the music they make, and also the ones that do also tour don't tour forever so their income form the music is something they will always have to keep them going.

You are right about distribution methods are changing but a lot of labels are going down in the process.
But the main point here is that file sharing is illegal and it doesn't help. I appreciate that you were only listing the tracks but you know all those producers to check they were OK with you offering their music for free, as I would imagine most of them wouldn't be happy about it.

The car story was just to make a point but I guess I didn't write it well enough as with your view it would be ok then if someone took your car and bought it back.

I work with Last.fm and they do pay for streams as every legimate store (eg Napster) does but I don't think it is advert generated. It is a very very low amount paid per stream but still it is something and they also link to 7Digital and iTunes for people to buy the tracks.
I know MyMspace Music is advert generated income but they only pay to the major labels, so any indie labels / artists won't get anything.

Digital is a new format and it is going to take along time for it to find its feet. Just this type of thing doesn't help, but I appreciate you switched to the mixes which is fair, a lot of others are not as understanding as you.
Only 1 on 20 downloads at the moment are expected to be legal and I am sure you can agree that is certainly not going to help labels / artists.

Thanx for the link going to check that out.
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Post by MRO »

Thanx for the link on Passing Off. Interesting to see a trademark / brand is protected under this, making it illegal for someone to copy something like the BLOC website, brand / image.
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Post by Phier »

File-sharing isn't illegal it depends what you share and if someone borrowed my car i wouldn't have it for the duration they had it so that analogy doesn't quite work either.

I would say that if you listen to the every track on an album using the last.fm model and listen to that album the average amount of times someone might do if they enjoy it, the artist would be paid more than the one off tiny percentage they'd get from a purchase and it's more directly proportionate to the popularity of the music anyway, not just at the point of sale.

As you know, last.fm is an opt-in service for producers, so all it takes is for the word to get out en masse and alot of these grassroots musicians where touring is costly or not known enough for them to tour - will be given a voice (it's not really equal though, i suggest you check this out when you have the time - http://www.last.fm/forum/5/_/491983 )
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Post by Phier »

More FSOL from Proton Radio...

The Future Sound Of London - Downtime Sessions 007 (Proton Radio) (16-11-2008)

Tracklist:
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01. To Rococo Rot - Freitag
02. Legaic - Mings Feaner
03. Onstrance - Chaingang
04. Chris Carter - Slomo
05. Marne Nordheim - Colorazione
06. Max Richter - Cathodes
07. Jonny Greenwood - Clockwork Tin Soldiers
08. Max Ritcher - This Picture Of Us
09. The Future Sound Of London - Summers Dream
10. Elite Barbarian - Soft Remind
11. Cassette Boy - ?
12. The Advisory Circle - The Old Schoolhouse
13. Implog - Holland Tunnel Drive
14. The Future Sound Of London - Open Window (Taken From The Jazz Mags)
15. Zakir Hussian - Jan Garbarck
16. Can - ?
17. Stephen Mallinder - Del Sol
18. The Future Sound Of London - Viewed From Above

http://rapidshare.com/files/198439447/F ... _.mp3.html
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Giles Peterson - Thursday 15th March 2007.

02.00
Cinematic Orchestra - 'Familiar Ground' (Ninja Tune)
Break Sl - 'Flow' (Philpot)
Heritage Orchestra - 'Sky Breaks' (Unforscene Remix) (White)
Teena Marie - 'You Make Love Like Springtime' (Gordy)
Raw Artistic Soul feat.Ursula Rucker - 'The Light' (Gogo Music)
4hero ft Carina Anderson - 'Morning Child' (Raw Canvas)
Bernard Wright - 'Nard' (Marc Mac Re-Edit) (White)

Marc Mac's 4hero History Lesson
4hero - 'Mr Kirks Nightmare' (Reinforced)
4hero - 'Journey from the Light' (Reinforced)
4hero - 'Wrinkles in Time' (Reinforced)
4hero - 'Universal Love' (Reinforced)
4hero - 'Loveless' (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Starchasers' (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Golden Age of Life'(Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Hold it Down' (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Another Day' (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Black Gold of the Sun' (Remix) (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Les Fleur' (Talkin' Loud)
4hero - 'Morning Child' (Raw Canvas)
4hero - 'Play with the Changes' (Raw Canvas)

03:00
4hero - 'Sophia'(Raw Canvas)
4hero - 'Why Don't You Talk' (Raw Canvas)
4hero - 'Our Own Place' (Raw Canvas)

Kutiman - 'No Reason For You' (MPM)
Frank n Dank - 'One Time For The... (Dopeness Galore)
Slum Villiage - 'Bottleggin my Sh**' (Test)
Coki - 'Burnin' (Dubplate)
Sun Ra - 'Hiroshima' (Art Yard)
Panoptikum 'Gods Props' (Gamm)
Hector Lavoe - 'Mi Gente' (Louie Vega Remix)

Gilles Peterson's Ladies Delights Mix
Sharon Redd, Ula Hedwig, Charlotte Crossley - 'Maiden Voyage' (Columbia)
Asha Puthli - 'Space Talk' (CBS)
Patti Austin - 'That's Enough For Me' (CTI)
Dionne Warwick - 'Your Gonna Need Me' (Warner Bros)
Loletta Holloway - 'Cassanova' (Soul Jazz)
Joy Denalane - 'Stranger in This Land' (Four Music)
Merry Clayton - 'Emotion' (MCA)

http://rapidshare.com/files/199169880/G ... o.mp3.html
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